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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.geigerindex.com/archives/big-three-bailout/comment-page-1/#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re an idiot.  I agree with comment #5.  People like you wonder why our economy is so bad when youre out buying imports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re an idiot.  I agree with comment #5.  People like you wonder why our economy is so bad when youre out buying imports.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>jazzcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well ONO, we are just commoners, what do we really know about any of it???!!!
The American Government knows what it&#039;s doing - OBVIOUSLY, that must be why we&#039;re in a Depression. Ya know it&#039;s funny - a Republican was in office the last time our country was in a Depression. I&#039;m surprised Congress isn&#039;t allowing Bush to GIVE AWAY more FREE MONEY to people who will not be able to fix the economy. For one thing it&#039;s just not enough, it&#039;s like putting a band-aid on a shotgun wound.

The Big Three are in over their heads and have been for quite some time. The name of the game in business is to PLAN. It reverts back to poor management, plain and simple. Where were the Boards of Directors when these companies were starting to slip? There isn&#039;t simply one or two people to blame here. They didn&#039;t worry about it because they knew that if worse came to worse they&#039;d have government bailouts to fall back on.
If you ask me they need this much required wake up call to put a forceful eye-opener up their rears.

This country is in real trouble when the &quot;fat cats&quot; won&#039;t even help each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well ONO, we are just commoners, what do we really know about any of it???!!!<br />
The American Government knows what it&#8217;s doing &#8211; OBVIOUSLY, that must be why we&#8217;re in a Depression. Ya know it&#8217;s funny &#8211; a Republican was in office the last time our country was in a Depression. I&#8217;m surprised Congress isn&#8217;t allowing Bush to GIVE AWAY more FREE MONEY to people who will not be able to fix the economy. For one thing it&#8217;s just not enough, it&#8217;s like putting a band-aid on a shotgun wound.</p>
<p>The Big Three are in over their heads and have been for quite some time. The name of the game in business is to PLAN. It reverts back to poor management, plain and simple. Where were the Boards of Directors when these companies were starting to slip? There isn&#8217;t simply one or two people to blame here. They didn&#8217;t worry about it because they knew that if worse came to worse they&#8217;d have government bailouts to fall back on.<br />
If you ask me they need this much required wake up call to put a forceful eye-opener up their rears.</p>
<p>This country is in real trouble when the &#8220;fat cats&#8221; won&#8217;t even help each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Ono</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jazzcat, you think it&#039;s bad now, wait till the big three go under and I move to your town with a college degree to compete with you for your $9/hr job you already lost.

What&#039;s making America poor, its you, people like you that complain about social reforms-and throw out the baby with the bath water&quot;-Lets end the welfare state? Oh yeah! Regan already did that.. You can thank Nixon for the value of the dollar (he changed it from money to currency don&#039;t know the difference? pickup a book).  BTW, Republican don&#039;t tax and give to the rich, they borrow from china and give to the rich.  That&#039;s another reason the dollar is falling, Thank our &quot;beloved&quot; Regan for that (Our biggest borrower before Bush jr. out borrowed all of them combined), and some Americans still thinks he was a great president... an actor with great economic policies, that&#039;s an oxymoron if I ever heard one.

You all need to quit complaining about things you don&#039;t fully understand, stop shooting yourselves in the foot with those complaints because they eventually turn in to issues that elect politicians.  Don&#039;t bitch about paying taxes then maybe the money that you do keep will have some value.  Don&#039;t bitch about saving big companies and then complain about not having a job.

If we all listened to Keith, we can have all manufacturing go to leaner and meaner foriegn companies, because they can get away with near slave labour (and oh yeah, screw the unions too, because they allow hardworking Americans to make &quot;to much money&quot;).
When the last of the manufacturing jobs are gone, we can all fight over the service industry jobs that are left, jobs like cashier at wallmart or an employee at google.  which one do you think you&#039;re going to get?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jazzcat, you think it&#8217;s bad now, wait till the big three go under and I move to your town with a college degree to compete with you for your $9/hr job you already lost.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s making America poor, its you, people like you that complain about social reforms-and throw out the baby with the bath water&#8221;-Lets end the welfare state? Oh yeah! Regan already did that.. You can thank Nixon for the value of the dollar (he changed it from money to currency don&#8217;t know the difference? pickup a book).  BTW, Republican don&#8217;t tax and give to the rich, they borrow from china and give to the rich.  That&#8217;s another reason the dollar is falling, Thank our &#8220;beloved&#8221; Regan for that (Our biggest borrower before Bush jr. out borrowed all of them combined), and some Americans still thinks he was a great president&#8230; an actor with great economic policies, that&#8217;s an oxymoron if I ever heard one.</p>
<p>You all need to quit complaining about things you don&#8217;t fully understand, stop shooting yourselves in the foot with those complaints because they eventually turn in to issues that elect politicians.  Don&#8217;t bitch about paying taxes then maybe the money that you do keep will have some value.  Don&#8217;t bitch about saving big companies and then complain about not having a job.</p>
<p>If we all listened to Keith, we can have all manufacturing go to leaner and meaner foriegn companies, because they can get away with near slave labour (and oh yeah, screw the unions too, because they allow hardworking Americans to make &#8220;to much money&#8221;).<br />
When the last of the manufacturing jobs are gone, we can all fight over the service industry jobs that are left, jobs like cashier at wallmart or an employee at google.  which one do you think you&#8217;re going to get?</p>
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		<title>By: Ono</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Idea guys, let American companies die and allow foriegn companies to move in and fill the void.  Tell that to people in Flint MI, about Toyota and Honda willing and ready to bring back the Jobs and infrastucture that GM took with it a couple of decades back when it left Flint (after all Flint survived right?).  Tell it to all the small midwest town that died at the end of the &quot;industrial revolution&quot; when factories closed.  A slow economy affects demand, it kills it go to Flint MI and other places like it and see how many new car dealerships are there.  That&#039;s not how America works, America is wealthy because it knows how to balance cpapitalism and social responsibility.  Remember, telling government to step aside is why we are in the financial crunch we are in now.  Yeah the market will correct itself, but at what cost, the difference between some third world countries with a ton of natural resources and us is that we have a government that works.  You&#039;ve all made valid points, but really consider the consequenses of your suggestions, I take it none of you live in MI or in any of the towns that will be desimated if these companies go under.  Perhaps consider writing your editorial with these people in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Idea guys, let American companies die and allow foriegn companies to move in and fill the void.  Tell that to people in Flint MI, about Toyota and Honda willing and ready to bring back the Jobs and infrastucture that GM took with it a couple of decades back when it left Flint (after all Flint survived right?).  Tell it to all the small midwest town that died at the end of the &#8220;industrial revolution&#8221; when factories closed.  A slow economy affects demand, it kills it go to Flint MI and other places like it and see how many new car dealerships are there.  That&#8217;s not how America works, America is wealthy because it knows how to balance cpapitalism and social responsibility.  Remember, telling government to step aside is why we are in the financial crunch we are in now.  Yeah the market will correct itself, but at what cost, the difference between some third world countries with a ton of natural resources and us is that we have a government that works.  You&#8217;ve all made valid points, but really consider the consequenses of your suggestions, I take it none of you live in MI or in any of the towns that will be desimated if these companies go under.  Perhaps consider writing your editorial with these people in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>jazzcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AGREED!
It IS bull that &quot;the big 3&quot; will cause a ripple in the industry.  I agree that foreign cars will take their place.  Right now they want to throw a bunch of stock-market percentages around in some lame effort to prove the global economy depends on the U.S. but foreign exports are waiting with baited breath to move in and don&#039;t doubt it!

I agree with Zela, why should the big guys be rewarded for failure when it&#039;s not acceptable from the small guys? It&#039;s time the &quot;fat cats&quot; understand starvation rations like the REAL WORLD. We&#039;re not the richest country in the world - the Republicans saw to that with their tactics of taxing the poor to keep the rich wealthy.

Besides they have the Italian, Chinese and Russian mafias to pay off. That takes big money. They also have to afford the free handouts of every foreigner that comes in. There are people who cannot speak english shopping in Neiman Marcus, a store I can only afford to walk by. And I do mean walk.

A portugese family came here with nothing and left millionaires because while the mother was on welfare the father owned a bank.  My mother didn&#039;t qualify for welfare because I made $9/hr and according to them that&#039;s too much money. We had sometimes less than $20 a week for food. I&#039;m roughly $10,000 in debt. I lost my job almost 2 years ago by the way and have still not found another, even retail won&#039;t hire me.
As an American I know what my countries priorities are - not Americans.
So what&#039;s wrong with the American economy? Well let&#039;s review the statistics of where American money goes shall we?
No, I&#039;m not prejudiced, I just would like to know which of their countries is going to make a millionaire out of me just for showing up!

Back to the conversation at hand:
FORD is known for it&#039;s bad transmissions, it&#039;s a sales gimick. Their transmissions are basically set to crumble around 100,000 miles. Accidental I&#039;m sure!

While these manufacturers are charging between $20,000 and $70,000 per vehicle, where is it going exactly?

Bottom line is WHEN these companies go under, no one will miss them, least of all foreign car companies.
My point all along is GOOD OL&#039; AMERICA, MAKING AMERICA THE POOREST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. My own country has poor management, of course they want to invest in failure.

I have spoken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AGREED!<br />
It IS bull that &#8220;the big 3&#8243; will cause a ripple in the industry.  I agree that foreign cars will take their place.  Right now they want to throw a bunch of stock-market percentages around in some lame effort to prove the global economy depends on the U.S. but foreign exports are waiting with baited breath to move in and don&#8217;t doubt it!</p>
<p>I agree with Zela, why should the big guys be rewarded for failure when it&#8217;s not acceptable from the small guys? It&#8217;s time the &#8220;fat cats&#8221; understand starvation rations like the REAL WORLD. We&#8217;re not the richest country in the world &#8211; the Republicans saw to that with their tactics of taxing the poor to keep the rich wealthy.</p>
<p>Besides they have the Italian, Chinese and Russian mafias to pay off. That takes big money. They also have to afford the free handouts of every foreigner that comes in. There are people who cannot speak english shopping in Neiman Marcus, a store I can only afford to walk by. And I do mean walk.</p>
<p>A portugese family came here with nothing and left millionaires because while the mother was on welfare the father owned a bank.  My mother didn&#8217;t qualify for welfare because I made $9/hr and according to them that&#8217;s too much money. We had sometimes less than $20 a week for food. I&#8217;m roughly $10,000 in debt. I lost my job almost 2 years ago by the way and have still not found another, even retail won&#8217;t hire me.<br />
As an American I know what my countries priorities are &#8211; not Americans.<br />
So what&#8217;s wrong with the American economy? Well let&#8217;s review the statistics of where American money goes shall we?<br />
No, I&#8217;m not prejudiced, I just would like to know which of their countries is going to make a millionaire out of me just for showing up!</p>
<p>Back to the conversation at hand:<br />
FORD is known for it&#8217;s bad transmissions, it&#8217;s a sales gimick. Their transmissions are basically set to crumble around 100,000 miles. Accidental I&#8217;m sure!</p>
<p>While these manufacturers are charging between $20,000 and $70,000 per vehicle, where is it going exactly?</p>
<p>Bottom line is WHEN these companies go under, no one will miss them, least of all foreign car companies.<br />
My point all along is GOOD OL&#8217; AMERICA, MAKING AMERICA THE POOREST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. My own country has poor management, of course they want to invest in failure.</p>
<p>I have spoken.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it is not the right timing to do politics for the republican in delaying the bailout for the automakers.

But anyway, goodluck to all of you, CDS blow-up is finally here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it is not the right timing to do politics for the republican in delaying the bailout for the automakers.</p>
<p>But anyway, goodluck to all of you, CDS blow-up is finally here.</p>
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		<title>By: George Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can we bailout the big three when we did nothing for the airline industry, the steel industry and the furniture industry and the textile industry.  The people who worked at those companies have survived.  What makes these poor managers any different?    Take them through bankruptcy and then reorganize as the process calls for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can we bailout the big three when we did nothing for the airline industry, the steel industry and the furniture industry and the textile industry.  The people who worked at those companies have survived.  What makes these poor managers any different?    Take them through bankruptcy and then reorganize as the process calls for.</p>
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		<title>By: Zela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you say is true. To me, it is all hypocrisy.  The Fat Cats of wall street get hand outs from the government and what do the failing small businesses get? loans or nothing. It is really sad. My father is a physician and owns his own practice. His clinic is in a lower income neighborhood and when this financial crisis started, it was not long before he started seeing less and less patients. It has been that way for months now for him, but in the name of the  free market he gets nothing. Sure the Big 3 provide more jobs but the reason they are failing is because they are not meeting the needs of consumers like they should. GM for example cannibalized its fully electric car (the EV-1) for obvious reasons. The truth is that some parts of the American economy is long overdue to have its teeth pulled, and this is one of them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you say is true. To me, it is all hypocrisy.  The Fat Cats of wall street get hand outs from the government and what do the failing small businesses get? loans or nothing. It is really sad. My father is a physician and owns his own practice. His clinic is in a lower income neighborhood and when this financial crisis started, it was not long before he started seeing less and less patients. It has been that way for months now for him, but in the name of the  free market he gets nothing. Sure the Big 3 provide more jobs but the reason they are failing is because they are not meeting the needs of consumers like they should. GM for example cannibalized its fully electric car (the EV-1) for obvious reasons. The truth is that some parts of the American economy is long overdue to have its teeth pulled, and this is one of them</p>
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